"I wish we could take a survey and see how many people got here because of a free article. "

RIGHT! Or, because one of us admonished a pal to read a forwarded article, and then subscribe. We make each-other's point.

If we are not supposed to post things at Free Republic, then how is it OK to forward copies to friends? Either the content is proprietary or it isn't.

One of us said he sent the article to Rush - as if he was not sure if it was OK.

For cry'in out loud. We are in a war here, and we don't even know if we can use the ammunition. What kind of a policy is that?!

Punruh:

"I worry about the future of this great country and what my grandchildren will face."...

No Shit!

Well & concisely said.

Vox

Dear Capo:

A Chinese restaurant?

How appropriate...

V

Stauvo:

"The Oasis for Rational Moderates"...

You Bad...You Bad

Here is a link to a 1999 Phoenix New Times article about John McCain's Vietnam imprisonment.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1999-03-25/news/is-john-mccain-a-war-hero/1

My tendancy is to take Jack's article at face value, however, the above referenced article causes me to tend toward neutrality on the issue of collaboration. Like other things, the death of a child or growing up black, only a prick thinks he really understands either. A non-participant can only imagine that he understands. The same with having lived the life of a prisoner of war.

Having said that, what does having been a prisoner of war and a war hero have to do with qualifying one to be president of the United States? Absolutely nothing.

If we want to talk about war heroes who ascended to the presidency - Washington, Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower - none of them were captured warriors. They were all victorious warriors. Does anyone think that John McCain could or should be compared to any of the above?

My real concern about John McCain is that he is simply lukewarm. He has no passion for the traditional, only for his place amongst the popular culture.

As to whether or not John McCain is or is not a patriot, I will defer to George Washington's definition of such in his farewell adress - "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness."

It is not my belief that religion and morality are of much interest to John McCain, and upon that alone will I discern the patriotism of John McCain or anyone else.

FIRST---Please use common sense. This site contains articles which contains many facts and theories. Some are based on well researched history and some are based on "inside information".
Sometimes this inside information does not pan out. I think many of us are still wondering if we will ever militarily confront Iran.
The flip side to inside information is whether it is believable. I remember a story of an American journalist who witnessed the Soviets massacre of hundreds of people in the early 1930's. The journalist told the Soviet commander that he will report this incident in his next article. The reponse from the Soviet commander was, "Go ahead; they will never believe you."
The American people did not believe that the incident occurred.

Why? The American people(outside of the loony left) will never believe the worst in people. They can not comprehend that evil events occur. 9/11 woke up this country, but the last 6+ years have seen the return to complacency.

Thus, be careful. Don't be surprised if people reject this information about McCain. This is not the type of article you want to introduce TTP to the world. In the short term it will marginalize Jack and TTP. If it becomes open knowledge and embraced by the American people, Jack becomes most relevent and folks will flock to TTP.

SECOND---This is still a pay site. Unless you have explicit instructions from Jack or the other authors of the articles on TTP, don't give out these articles freely.
I am not sure about copyright laws or copyright infringement but giving out information from a pay site is an infringement on Jack's ability to make money.

If you would not want someone to do this to you, DON'T do it to Jack.

USE COMMON SENSE!!!!!!

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We are in a war here, and we don't even know if we can use the ammunition.

It's not our ammunition; it's our neighbors. Jack's in this case.

I'm not saying I'd never steal my neighbors ammunition in the heat of battle, if I decided that theft was a lessor crime than murder of an innocent (which might be myself ). But I don't plan on ever doing any such theft, and I do what I can to arrange my life so that such will not be necessary.

And besides, as someone pointed out with the Soviet massacre, the affect of this ammunition in the general populace is far from obvious. It might be more like finding an old grenade in your grandfathers possessions from an war of long ago. Just when, or even if, it will go off is a matter of uncertainty.

Absolutely. Stauvo -- that was funny! Oasis for Rational Moderates reminds me of a friend's suggestion that I start a version of To The Point for liberals -- and call the website What's The Point?

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Having said that, what does having been a prisoner of war and a war hero have to do with qualifying one to be president of the United States? Absolutely nothing.

True, what happened thirty years ago, largely out of his control, has nothing to do with qualifying him to be President.

However, how he tells that story now, and the extent to which he is honest, and the extent to which he can be Blackmailed for secrets he wants to hide, all have quite a bit to do with qualifying him for President now, especially as they reflect on his current moral character.

Don't use the excuse that "it's all about prisoner of war events from long ago" as a smoke screen to distract from more relevant, but less incendiary, actions, and their appropriate consequence, in the present. That's what Bill Clinton did with the Monica escapade.